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[MNBob]

I'll link here once he does.

Patch 1.1 Notes

[Sporting_Lisbon]

Great!

[MNBob]

linked

[KingVint]

Thanks MNBob!

[StrokeyBlofeld]

Cool.

[etrips888]

love the patch notes!
what are the new costs for the china castle banner armies?

[GeneralMichael]

Ohh I was so happy that the dancer limit never went below 10 thinking I was safe and could still do my 10 wp dancing at fire pit, then I saw it... they changed the wp limit to 6 wp in age 2, 8 in age 3 and 10 in age 4. 8O This has just crushed my aztec boom. Though I am happy with spain getting a boost, though I am still waiting for thier fast age up to age 3 that way they can do a decent ff, They are the only 1 without a fast age up and in treaty games only spain does it take me till 30min to get max vills, all the others I have max vills well before 20mins

[I__CHAOS__I]

[quote=""GeneralMichael""] only spain does it take me till 30min to get max vills, all the others I have max vills well before 20mins[/quote]

you must be something wrong, I'm sure spain can be as fast as the others
I'll see if I can get you a build order for it.

[36drew]

[quote=""GeneralMichael""]Ohh I was so happy that the dancer limit never went below 10 thinking I was safe and could still do my 10 wp dancing at fire pit, then I saw it... they changed the wp limit to 6 wp in age 2, 8 in age 3 and 10 in age 4. 8O This has just crushed my aztec boom. Though I am happy with spain getting a boost, though I am still waiting for thier fast age up to age 3 that way they can do a decent ff, They are the only 1 without a fast age up and in treaty games only spain does it take me till 30min to get max vills, all the others I have max vills well before 20mins[/quote]

Aztec and boom don't go together. Their economy is usually poor but their early military pressure make up for it along with the firepit.

Keep in mind that in discovery you can have 6wp + 4 villagers on a firepit. This has the same effect as 8wp. This is still significant since normally most aztec players just race to 10wp and use those for xp/attack dance w/e until they hit fortress anyway.

Although sometimes it happens, you usually don't through 25 dancers on in colonial. (I've maybe only done it 4 times of the the 100 i've used a firepit).

[cheesehat]

The iroquois starting party change is now BS, it costs more than a normal trained batch of 5 Tomahawks and the extra speed isnt too amazing...

10 Dog soldiers for 1500 food
5 Tomas for 450 food 100 wood
3 Jaguar Prowl Knights for 450 food

Man Agesanc screwed the game up now IMO, i'll switch when Japan laming gets too hardcore

[cheesehat]

They even Nerfed UP civs OMG

[I__CHAOS__I]

[quote=""cheesehat""]The iroquois blah blah blah whine whine whine....[/quote]

unless you can make decents posts and explain why you think AS screwed the game up, plz stop posting

those guys put in a lot of free time trying to fix this game - u could show some respect at least.

[deadhanddan]

+1 to what chaos said ---- their is a thread on agesanc regarding an ''apparent'' abus nerf , this is far from the truth , abus can now finally counter dragoons : which is very much needed , ottoman can now have free vills from mosque techs, doesn't matter an awful lot that prices is adjusted , vills come with them! can always send cheaper mosque tech card and uber boom , at least try out the patch and then judge it

[deadhanddan]

[quote=""cheesehat""]The iroquois starting party change is now BS, it costs more than a normal trained batch of 5 Tomahawks and the extra speed isnt too amazing...

10 Dog soldiers for 1500 food
5 Tomas for 450 food 100 wood
3 Jaguar Prowl Knights for 450 food

Man Agesanc screwed the game up now IMO, i'll switch when Japan laming gets too hardcore[/quote] you must have forgotten the fact that iro scouting party and the souix and aztec bb techs can be teched while being housed, thus having a speedy military shipment without any pop space needed, this is a good fix that agesanc team made -the vast majority of eso and i support it 100%

[etrips888]

[quote=""cheesehat""]They even Nerfed UP civs OMG[/quote]

please point to where there are UP cvis being nerfed, cause I must have missed those...