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Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:21 pm
by Jero12345
I am trying to play with india for the change
I just start with 5 vill on wood to get my vills first card i send is 20% faster wood is this a bit good startup?
then wich wonder should i age?
I just need a bit basic information

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:48 pm
by Drag
I don't play much India, but I've always thought the wood trickle card was better as the first card.

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:06 pm
by Jero12345
could be i was already wondering what is faster 1,25 trickle rate or 5 vill with 20% faster wood

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:15 pm
by h0m3w0rk
You need to watch the VOD's India mirror match Flooky and Samwize12 there is also another one with H2O (rayan mancl) and Flooky watch these.

Think they are on age sanc 36Drew does the commentary on both games.

1st Card is wood trickle. hope this helps

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:15 pm
by Jero12345
ty:D

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:21 pm
by h0m3w0rk
I have them. Trying to find on Age sanc but seams to be down so I can't find you the link

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:51 pm
by Jero12345
oke, i will look later then

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:04 pm
by danno527
wood trickle is better as a first card.
Usually my card order is :distributivism, 5 sepoys, 4 sowars, wood trickle #2. There is flexibility in this thought as vs some civs you will want too switch it up.

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:23 pm
by Jero12345
oke thanks^^ i will test things out and see how it goes^^

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:51 pm
by danno527
Feel free to whisper me and i can do a few games with you to rec and watch.

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:10 pm
by Jero12345
I will surely do

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:11 pm
by cleeduz
Anyone else have a link to the VODs mentioned? I would love to take a look at them also.

AgeSanc still down, atm. :(

Re: Help With India

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:52 pm
by Zutazuta
With India, it greatly depends on what you are going to do that decides your early strategy. 95% of the time, as people have said, you'll be sending the wood trickle as your first card, but from there, it can vary greatly.

First thing to remember is that even though India lacks villager cards, they can still boom pretty well. If you are going to go with a more boomy approach to the game (my prefered way to play India), then shipping 600 wood as your first card and drop a consulate for Ottoman allies and the villagers from there and a bunch of market techs. While doing this you should be able to get continued batches out from a barracks of sepoy or gurka and either defend with MM+TC fire+units if he is pushing or raid around a bit with your units. The most important thing is to never have your units sitting idle. Often times I see two players both just sit in there base and mass and then run into the middle and have one big fight. Try to be constantly moving around, raiding his hunt/coin.

If you are going to play more aggressively, you can either do Agra or ToV and build forward. If he is playing a civ with a good xbow spam or RI of some sort (Dutch, Brit, etc) then ship 4 sowar early and follow with a sepoy/gurka push. From there you will need to probably start to mix in sowar using the 600 wood card. I think often times a lot of people underestimate how important 600 wood can be for India, but it is still a really good card that should probably end up getting sent nearly every game.

Re: Help With India

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:08 am
by Jero12345
thanks a lot zutazuta

Re: Help With India

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:15 am
by cleeduz
Thanks Zuta, that's good stuff.

That is one area where I have been trying to change my playstyle a bit. I have always played very aggresively and would usually do an "all - in" rush 90% of the time. Lately, I have been trying to focus on eco more, I have even been considering semi-ff's now. lol

That is one thing I noticed with India, I can play them a lot like Iro's very early, but can usually lay back a little and still have a decent eco if things go wrong in that initial push.

Thanks again for the great info.