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[quote=""wicked_assassin""]? what the hell are you talking about. Prison is first to remove someone from society with the focus to protect society. Secondly it's a punishment. Some people just don't have any morality and have to be kept in line with the danger of prison.

Of cource it's unnecesairy to lock away non-violent criminals. For example for frauds a alternative punishment is a better solution then locking them away in a prison with murders.[/quote]
I just think that you shouldn't hurt one or actually punish one like that, no matter what he did.

[quote=""jerom""][quote=""wicked_assassin""]? what the hell are you talking about. Prison is first to remove someone from society with the focus to protect society. Secondly it's a punishment. Some people just don't have any morality and have to be kept in line with the danger of prison.

Of cource it's unnecesairy to lock away non-violent criminals. For example for frauds a alternative punishment is a better solution then locking them away in a prison with murders.[/quote]
I just think that you shouldn't hurt one or actually punish one like that, no matter what he did.[/quote]



so he comes into your house own your wife then strangles her then calmly walks into your childrens bedrooms own your children but it s all OK because 25 years in prison s going to make him a very very sorry man well all forgiven...HELLO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES

[quote=""jerom""][quote=""wicked_assassin""]? what the hell are you talking about. Prison is first to remove someone from society with the focus to protect society. Secondly it's a punishment. Some people just don't have any morality and have to be kept in line with the danger of prison.

Of cource it's unnecesairy to lock away non-violent criminals. For example for frauds a alternative punishment is a better solution then locking them away in a prison with murders.[/quote]
I just think that you shouldn't hurt one or actually punish one like that, no matter what he did.[/quote]

First of all my statement still stands.
Secondly you shouldn't punish someone like that? The society needs to see that justice exist. When a killer don't get punished the society will lose it's respect for the system.

Jerom i challenge you to be honest with yourself, Would you accept that if someone would walk free if he/she were to cut your mother in pieces? No you wouldn't. Saying different means you live in fantasy world and you don't understand your own heart.

3# Some criminals don't have any empathy towards other human beings.
Having empathy is the reason why most criminals can be rehabilated and others should be removed from sociely for the rest of their life. People whitout any empathy have no place in this world. I say this because for me empathy for living humans and animals is the only reason i have a conscience.

I think I would want him to get punished, but I also think it shouldn't be like that.

the only solution is preventing the crimes and that starts with a good education. Our society failed every time a crime happened. the punishement hardly matters... it's too late.

[quote=""scoop10""][quote=""jerom""][quote=""wicked_assassin""]? what the hell are you talking about. Prison is first to remove someone from society with the focus to protect society. Secondly it's a punishment. Some people just don't have any morality and have to be kept in line with the danger of prison.

Of cource it's unnecesairy to lock away non-violent criminals. For example for frauds a alternative punishment is a better solution then locking them away in a prison with murders.[/quote]
I just think that you shouldn't hurt one or actually punish one like that, no matter what he did.[/quote]



so he comes into your house own your wife then strangles her then calmly walks into your childrens bedrooms own your children but it s all OK because 25 years in prison s going to make him a very very sorry man well all forgiven...HELLO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES[/quote]

Personally i would hunt that guy down. No question. But it can't be a solution for a society. What if a Jury sends a guy to jail with a followed death sentence. Afterwards it's proven he was innocent. Does the victims family gain the right to kill all Jury members as well? And if not, why not? They killed an innocent guy.


edit: +1 to what Chaos said.

[quote=""HuggyPierre""][quote=""scoop10""][quote=""jerom""][quote=""wicked_assassin""]? what the hell are you talking about. Prison is first to remove someone from society with the focus to protect society. Secondly it's a punishment. Some people just don't have any morality and have to be kept in line with the danger of prison.

Of cource it's unnecesairy to lock away non-violent criminals. For example for frauds a alternative punishment is a better solution then locking them away in a prison with murders.[/quote]
I just think that you shouldn't hurt one or actually punish one like that, no matter what he did.[/quote]



so he comes into your house own your wife then strangles her then calmly walks into your childrens bedrooms own your children but it s all OK because 25 years in prison s going to make him a very very sorry man well all forgiven...HELLO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES[/quote]

Personally i would hunt that guy down. No question. But it can't be a solution for a society. What if a Jury sends a guy to jail with a followed death sentence. Afterwards it's proven he was innocent. Does the victims family gain the right to kill all Jury members as well? And if not, why not? They killed an innocent guy.


edit: +1 to what Chaos said.[/quote]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there's no way anyone will ever find this guy "not guillty". He told the authorities exactly which hollowed out tree he hid the bodies in. It was a 65 foot tall tree that the bodies were found in, and he conveniently has professional tree/pole climbing gear. And, the 13 year old was found in his basement. I don't see how he can ever say "I didn't do it"

^exactly

[quote=""RascalJones""][quote=""HuggyPierre""][quote=""scoop10""][quote=""jerom""][quote=""wicked_assassin""]? what the hell are you talking about. Prison is first to remove someone from society with the focus to protect society. Secondly it's a punishment. Some people just don't have any morality and have to be kept in line with the danger of prison.

Of cource it's unnecesairy to lock away non-violent criminals. For example for frauds a alternative punishment is a better solution then locking them away in a prison with murders.[/quote]
I just think that you shouldn't hurt one or actually punish one like that, no matter what he did.[/quote]



so he comes into your house own your wife then strangles her then calmly walks into your childrens bedrooms own your children but it s all OK because 25 years in prison s going to make him a very very sorry man well all forgiven...HELLO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES[/quote]

Personally i would hunt that guy down. No question. But it can't be a solution for a society. What if a Jury sends a guy to jail with a followed death sentence. Afterwards it's proven he was innocent. Does the victims family gain the right to kill all Jury members as well? And if not, why not? They killed an innocent guy.


edit: +1 to what Chaos said.[/quote]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there's no way anyone will ever find this guy "not guillty". He told the authorities exactly which hollowed out tree he hid the bodies in. It was a 65 foot tall tree that the bodies were found in, and he conveniently has professional tree/pole climbing gear. And, the 13 year old was found in his basement. I don't see how he can ever say "I didn't do it"[/quote]

That was a general question. Is there an invisible line that separates kills that are authorized by human beings and none authorized kills? Who gains the legitimation to decide about life and death of another human being? Well, i think we just have two different pov here.

Well here is yet another example why this whole anti death penalty discussion is very very personal and why every1 has their very own opinion.

Im astounded that the same news is having two entirely different outcomes! On the one hand, namely the Texan 1 it "proves the system does work". and on the other its an outrage that a man spent 12 years thinking he was going 2 be "..removed permanently from society.."

Pls discuss

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don't rely on a public defender and this shouldn't happen.

It should not even happen when u get a public defender

i had a public defender once back when i was 18



worst thing ever

I believe u instantly.

:muahaha: