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				Can o worms
				Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:51 pm
				by Soccerman771
				Ok, so the election cycle in the US is pretty much in full swing now with now just over 60 days until the election.
What do the non-US folks think?  Do you even care?
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:32 pm
				by Frits
				Not really, media is really one sided here (in favour of obama). And we all expect obama to be reelected. But the whole circus doesnt get much attention.
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:33 pm
				by jerom
				I think about 95% of Holland is pro-obama (or the democrats in general during every single election)
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:10 pm
				by Sporting_Lisbon
				Yes we care!
I do appreciate Obama's overall feel of reducing social inequalities but sadly what the world needs right now is an economically strong USA that can turn around this crisis.
That, and Mitt Romney being against reducing to half the american presence in the Azores. The american base is quite big and has a large economical influence in the region. Romney also wants to straighten the bonds to Europe, and one can't argue against that.
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:15 pm
				by generalbuschmann
				Mostly bad things you hear in German media about Romney (at least from what i saw).
I think he is a terrible person...
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:09 am
				by Aaryn_GenD
				people don't care really, because things will stay mostly the same. those presidents are just puppets.
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:22 am
				by 36drew
				My small town suburbia is very pro Obama. Fwiw.
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:03 pm
				by emperoral
				Well Romney get my vote. I know lets get some workers to build a stage so he can speak to the company he owns to enform them that they are sacked. What a great guy! Funny he says he want jobs for Americans but out sources his own companys to India etc.Well thats what the rumours say.  Also hear it's 50-50 over there, bet you cannot watch the TV without a commercial dig at one of them. 
Guess anything can happen as you guys voted George Bush twice, how the hell he got a second term amazes me.
Hmm is that another can of worms been opened now. 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:57 am
				by Comadevil
				Well Romney has done everything to make himself unpopular in Europe, when he was here some weeks ago for a visit.
One example:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19007127
On the other hand Obama isn't the best president the US ever had, but IMO he is the better choice over Romney.
Though Romney may be another guy when he is president cause often the office shapes the man as we say in Germany
What disturbs me more is the division in congress and that the parties aren't able to work together and make even small compromises it seems. 
The republicans get more and more hijacked by the tea party, the parties are just sitting in their ideological dugouts.
At this time the parties seem to do more what they think is good for them than for their country.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:04 pm
				by Soccerman771
				Comadevil wrote:
What disturbs me more is the division in congress and that the parties aren't able to work together and make even small compromises it seems. 

someone that's paying attention.  This is the biggest road block currently.  Neither 'team' wants to compromise for political posturing and let something good happen while the other guy is in power.  Sad, really.
I don't see Romney or Obama as that different being politicians.  They will say and do anything to get elected, but I don't believe Obama has done anything to help lead and unite the country.  If anything, we are more divided now than we were 4 years ago.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:45 pm
				by jerom
				Honestly thats pretty much the story of any political model I know... they just say stuff and then eventually they end up arguing about everything and don't really do anything interesting....
In Holland we're also having elections atm and im honestly really disappointed by the fact that nobody actually says smart things.... They just try to win the less intelligent people for them by saying things that are mostly nonsense lol. Nobody actually truly adresses the matters at hand or uses any serious arguments to defend why what they want to do is best. Its all a little bit sad lol.
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:33 am
				by Aaryn_GenD
				it's over, obama won. goodbye romney
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:17 pm
				by jerom
				Haha, can't deny im happy with the result 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:46 pm
				by Sporting_Lisbon
				Republicans need to work on expanding their target audience.
			 
			
					
				Re: Can o worms
				Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:52 pm
				by Soccerman771
				Aaryn_GenD wrote:
it's over, obama won. goodbye America
FIFY.
Btw, i agree with you sporting